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Jessie T. Wolf
July 28th, 2007
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GUH!!! >__O

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From:brokkentwolf
Date:July 28th, 2007 06:32 pm (UTC)
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But that's the whole idea behind art: It should stir, evoke and even provoke. Terry Gilliam did a great job of doing just that. And in a way, the ending is very Miltonian who wrote in Paradise Lost: "The mind is its own place. It can make a hell out of heaven and a heaven out of hell". I a matter of speaking, they broke the protagonist's body, but his mind was free to soar.

Oi. :) I'll send ya an e-mail with my addy. Sorry I've been really busy with work. :)
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From:scribble_fox
Date:July 28th, 2007 07:19 pm (UTC)
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I totally agree with Brokken! *hugs to Brokken* Although the process of the movie seemed bleak and full of dark imagery, the focus of the movie was the hope that the mind is in a world appart - and in that place we can always be free.

Movies like this broaden our perspective by putting us through an artistic distilation of exagerated events. If nothing else, they do exactly what this one has - evoke a discussion! :)

Sorry it squicked you out though! *hug* See you later! :D
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From:wlfdog
Date:July 28th, 2007 10:03 pm (UTC)
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Oh yeah, it squicked me out... especially the whole false sense of security at the end, where you think that everything is finally okay, and then they flip around on you and it's really not okay and the guy has just broken down and is only living his happy ending in his mind. Horribly, horribly depressing... it just blew my mind. The movie just made me feel completely used and toyed with - emotionally raped - not a nice feeling at all.

HOWEVER, I also totally agree with both you and Brokken. A GOOD story or movie is one that induces a strong emotional reaction from its audience. And this movie did indeed do that for me. So in many ways yes I hated the movie - but I also really liked it for it's brilliant direction and visuals, and main core focus, even though it was very bleak and disturbing.

My real issue with watching it last night was more timing than anything. Just to explain, Tim and I do our best to censor what we watch together. For example, Tim doesn't like horror flicks, or movies that have paranormal/ghost type things, because those things hit too close to home for him. So I watch those by myself, because I know he has a hard time with them. Or I censor certain movies, so if I know something might upset him, he knows in advance and can prepare himself mentally/emotionally for it. Likewise, I don't like movies with a lot of brutality or violence/meanness, and topics that hit too close to home in this world. I don't mind the Horror genre because I know it's not real - it's fantasy, fiction.

There were a lot of things in Brazil that ARE true, that CAN be very real, and I was not emotionally prepared to watch a movie as intense as that last night, and I had specifically told Tim previously that I was not in the mood to watch anything heavy/mean. Tim is supposed to protect me from movies like that, just as I try my best to do the same thing for him. In this case, I was upset because he had told me I should be fine with it (he had watched it quite a while ago and forgot just how intense it actually was...). Well, I wasn't fine with it. It affected me greatly. Hence my emotional outburst in my journal.

The movie IS brilliant, no doubt about that. My beef was just having it kind of shoved in my face when I was not in the right mind state for it.
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From:wlfdog
Date:July 28th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
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I agree with you, and this movie did just that. A GOOD movie does evoke a powerful reaction from its audience, whether that be laughter, anger or sadness.

Have you seen Pan's Labyrinth? Another brilliant piece. Very brutal, with a sad but happy ending, depending on how the audience wants to look at it.

Brazil's ending made me feel so damned cheated though. O__o

I await your e-mail. :)
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From:geekbear74
Date:July 29th, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
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Yes, I saw Pan's Labyrinth as well! An awesome movie with good storytelling, despite the sad ending.
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From:geekbear74
Date:July 29th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
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Yea, you're right actually. Its just that I like to go and see a flick despite visual advertisements (posters, etc) and other people's opinions. If a preview catches my eye I definately would love to see it.

So yea, I admit I'm bit of a hypocrite here because I went to go see Transformers with an open mind since you have a lot of fanboys cry over how its made and NOT see it at all, lol.
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