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Jessie T. Wolf
February 27th, 2007
01:22 pm


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What A Freakin’ Douche…
So, we’ve had an awful lot of Drama going on, on the Klaus Doberman Yahoo! group’s list lately. Everything from identity theft, (some wanker stole Klaus’ old Yahoo! e-mail and spent a good few months pretending to be Klaus on his list) to alleged art piracy, (Klaus found his new, unfinished, “Do Not Distribute!” artwork up on F-Chan) and now some dope bugging the other members for adult “Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron” artwork, knowing full-well that Klaus got into major trouble from Dreamworks in regards to those drawings, and is no longer allowed to post them up on the net.

What bugs me is that the guy e-mailed Klaus asking for two of the Spirit drawings, (apparently he already has two of four) and when he didn’t get a reply from Klaus (again, knowing that Klaus does not want them distributed any longer) he figured that he could ask the people on the list. Big mistake. The guy’s been told, politely, at least a few times already that no one on the group will distribute those pictures, in good faith to Klaus.

Now, granted that the guy doesn’t speak (type?) very good English, as I think he’s from Russia… but from the messages he’s sent to the list, I don’t think he’s as stupid as he tries to come across. Basically, when people have told him, “Sorry, no, we can’t give you this art,” he’s been pulling the guilt-trip BS of, “I don’t understand any of you! People are supposed to help each other out! You’re just afraid of Dreamworks, and so you guys won’t give me free artwork that I feel I’m entitled to!” Those weren’t his exact words, but that basically sums it up.

I finally got tired of listening to him bitch on the list, and sent him a couple of private e-mails, in the hopes that it would help him to better understand.

His message to the list:

“Thanks for advice, but I already tried to contact Mr. Klaus Doberman
to this post address klausdoberman@yahoo.com The Answer, I have not
received. Probably Mr. Klaus has not wanted to understand me and to
help me with these works. On this I having small hope have written
the request in Klausart's group. But also there I have not received
the help and it should afflict me …”

My e-mail to him:

The Yahoo address is Klaus' old e-mail, which no longer works, because someone stole it from him. That is why he has not written you back. He no longer uses the klausdoberman@yahoo.com e-mail address.

As many people on the list have already said, Klaus does NOT wish for his Spirit art to be given away to ANYONE, or posted ANYWHERE because of his Cease and Decist order from Dreamworks. The people in Klaus' yahoo group will not give you any Spirit artwork, because Klaus himself has asked that no one give it out anymore. If his Spirit art is found anywhere else on the net, he can get into a LOT of trouble, and his friends and fans do not wish that for him.

It's not that they don't want to help you out - it's that Klaus does not wish to have his Spirit artwork given out anymore. If you obtain it from anywhere else, then that would be illegal.

~Jessie T. Wolf

His reply to me:

“Do not worry Mr. Wolf, I already has understood what not you not Mr. Klaus will not help me. I have found all these works of Spirit independently, and on this any more I shall not disturb you. If you will see Mr. Klaus, pass him from me, many thanks for that that he has drawn them, and say to him that I did not want will deliver to him of inconveniences. Say to him also that people should help to each other and if it does not occur, that it leaves bad impressions about such person. Such bad impressions have remained with me from dialogue with Mr. Klaus and his group. I as before do not understand why everyone are afraid to give to me these figures of Spirit, I asked them for a an individual collection, not for accommodation in a network. But all of you too are afraid of illusive threat DreamWorks, it is the fact and unexpectedness for me.”

My reply to him:

"Say to him also that people should help to each other and if it does not occur, that it leaves bad impressions about such person. Such bad impressions have remained with me from dialogue with Mr. Klaus and his group."

Also, please understand that you, sir, are leaving a bad impression, by asking for artwork that Klaus, nor his group, are LEGALLY allowed to give out. It is illegal for us to give out such artwork, because Dreamworks has filed a Cease and Decist order against Klaus, and you are asking us to break the law.

"But all of you too are afraid of illusive threat DreamWorks, it is the fact and unexpectedness for me."

It is not about being "afraid." It is about respecting others' wishes. We are not afraid of Dreamworks - we are trying to be respectful of their request, and Klaus' request, that we no longer distribute anymore adult Spirit artwork.

I hope that this e-mail has helped you to better understand why no one in Klaus' group will "help" you. Again, it is not that we do not want to help you out. The fact is just that if we were to do so, we would be breaking the law, as well as breaking honor and trust among friends and fans of Klaus. You would not ask a friend of yours to steal a car for you to "help you out." For the same reason, we will not distribute illegal artwork to a complete stranger.

~Jessie T. Wolf

Yar. It’s people like this who should be kicked out of all art lists, period. I still just do not get what is up with people who think it’s their God-given right to have free artwork, when they don’t give a damn thing back to their community.

One of the reasons I like Klaus’ group (apart from the fact that I think he’s a very talented artist, and I love his coloring technique) is because Klaus actually appreciates input and criticism from his fans. He asks what it is that his fans would like to see him draw, and he draws it FOR his fans. He also encourages the members of his list to post up their own artwork as well, even if many people are still just in the learning process. Doesn’t matter how bad the artwork is - he encourages members to post, and then others can give pointers on where the person can improve. It makes a difference!! And it’s something I very rarely see on other “popular” Furry Artists’ lists.

I feel bad for Klaus that his work is still being ripped from him time and again, when he does so much for his fans. It is nice to see that many of the people on his Yahoo! group are very loyal to him and will not betray his trust. But to all of the idiots who’ve snuck into the group and pulled crap just to get off on the damage that they’ve done to yet another artist - may they all get leprosy and die.

I am taking a break from artwork for a while, not because of shit like this, but because I just need the break to recharge my batteries, so to speak. Once I’m done with commissions I’ve owed for ages, I would really like to get back into working on my own stuff again.

I’ve toyed with the idea of starting a list, just because it might actually get me back into drawing for the sheer enjoyment of it. And because I know that there will always be art piracy, I will not make my artwork “Do Not Distribute!” because that will only be begging Art Pirates to rip me off. Rather, if I ever do start my own list and people want to steal my work and slap their own signature on it, I am confident enough that my true friends and fans would be able to recognize my particular art style when they see it, and to me that’s all that’s really important.

I don’t draw enough for anyone to steal my work anyway… O_x

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[User Picture]
Date:February 27th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
If you ever do start a list or anything you better let me know hun *Scowls*

PS Look me up sometime, Ive been thinking of you lately and miss talking to you.

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Date:February 27th, 2007 08:17 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear about the legal troubles with your artist friend. It's sad to see fan art get ripped off and put up into places or on lists that the artist doesn't approve of like pay sites etc.. I certainly wouldn't want to break any agreement made with Dreamworks if all they asked was to keep his objectionable material off public or pay sites.

If your friend can I'd suggest he delete the yahoo account and restart it thus avoiding any attempt to slander his name or allow access to his artwork. It might be a slight inconvenience but at least he would gain back that bit of security and piece of mind.

Its sad to see such a talented artist who doesn't mind constructive criticism and does it mainly for his fans get taken advantage like that. 98% percent of all fans are decent people and will respect the artists wishes. Its that 1% that are out there to do no good and stir up trouble and the last percent is someone who feels they been ticked off, or expects the artist to do what they want it just for them even if the artist does not do that kind of work.

I hope your friend can sort out this mess Miss Jess, and I'll look forward if you decide to go ahead list. Take care *hugs*
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Date:February 27th, 2007 08:27 pm (UTC)
There was this one comic that purplevixen did of being an art vending machine. You pay for art you get art, then of course there are people who think an artist's work isn't worth money n so try to steal it.

Waaay back when I used to be on Klaus' old yahoo group, I loved his work and complimented him on it. Hell, I still all his works, and I certainly don't distribute it.

I feel for the guy, it sucks horribly when your art gets stolen, I guess it's the case of people not considering what people draw as art if it gives you an erection. :(
[User Picture]
Date:February 27th, 2007 09:08 pm (UTC)
I've tried over the years to encourage Klaus to draw more original characters and get away from the copyrighted ones, however appealing they are. Unfortunately, he can't un-draw what he's drawn and too many folk seem too bent on endangering him legally and either don't understand or don't care. We've lost furry artists to death, we've lost some to piracy who stopped drawing ... we definitely don't need to lose one to prison because folk who don't care kept distributing art he's not allowed to redistribute.

'Course you already heard my rantings and ravings ... I'm actually going to not even read the list presently if this is flaring up as I'm in a bad mood already, this week isn't going well at work and with my finances.
[User Picture]
Date:February 27th, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
You should just leave it be. You'd be surprised what Klaus really thinks of most everyone in that group. XD
[User Picture]
Date:February 28th, 2007 01:43 am (UTC)
"You should just leave it be."

Wellll... you know me. Always trying to be the peacekeeper. It might not make a difference, but I try to at least give people a *chance* to learn something new. I figured maybe he was just ignorant. I was wrong - he's just a beggar.

"You'd be surprised what Klaus really thinks of most everyone in that group."

*thinks* I somehow doubt that. :-P That I would be surprised, that is. With all of the children in that group? And hopefully I’m not on that list. O__x

What gets me is why he even continues to upload art to the list, when we already know that there are art thieves and posers in there... It really strikes me that he is surprised when someone from his own list rips art from him.

There is no guaranteed way to stop it... but has Klaus ever considered getting a locked, Friends-Only LJ to use as an art-posting venue? Anyone can join the Yahoo! group... but if he got a LJ, maybe it would bring down the amount of theft just a teensy bit, if he only allowed people he already knew and trusted to view it? Just a thought. Probably not worth beans though.
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Date:February 28th, 2007 04:06 am (UTC)
If there's a will, there's a way. Believe me. It's kinda like Microsoft boasting of all this security improvements and how Vista is as secure as a Nazi concentration camp, (which is an APT analogy here, Goddamn Bill Gates) but yet someone somewhere will find bugs and exploits and use them to the fullest advantage.
[User Picture]
Date:February 28th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
Wait, Klaus, the guy who draws all that shit that makes up a zoophile's wet dream? Haha, fuck him.
Date:February 28th, 2007 03:06 am (UTC)
Well if your not going to draw, at least you could do is take some photos and post them to your journal once in a while, so we know your still alive ;) .
I don’t think you have posted pictures of where you work yet. *hint hint*

Take care ^_^
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